Premier appoints Chief Jester

The Premier’s press secretary should not be allowed to voice his personal opinion on political matters if the rest of the civil servants are not allowed to do so

“Mr. Jones stressed he was not a civil servant but a political appointment.”

“It is thought Mr. Jones was appointed under a 1983 act allowing the Premier and Opposition leaders to appoint personal staff paid for out of the public purse but separate from the Civil Service.”

Absolutely ridiculous.  The public should not have to foot the bill for such if Mr. Jones is not to be bound to similar rules to which all other civil servants are bound.

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sal
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Bullshit Beats Brains!
The PLP race baiting cadre are using taxpayers money to sponsor race hate speakers,from Rolf, to importing professional hate speakers,to PLP hate radio,Hott107 and Fresh tv(tonight airing a Louis Farrakhan hate speech),with even more Disinformation TV to come in September,when G’ment tv opens.

Denis Pitcher
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Sal,
Can you tone it down on the hate references and find a more reasonable manner to make your point?

ken
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ken

Denis,
The Press Secretary is a political appointment and is not a civil servant. The Constitution gives the Premier the powers to have personal staff – and it is under this that the Press Secretary resides. This constitution was not created in 1998 as you have noted, but rather in 1983. Dr Brown and Mr Jones should not be attacked for using the positions as they were intended to be used for.

Denis Pitcher
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Ken,
Nowhere in my piece do I state that the act was created in 1998. 1983 is the date mentioned.
The point of the piece is that I disagree with the ability of the Premier’s personal publicly funded staff to speak on their own behalf on political issues if the civil service is not afforded the same luxury, regardless of when this act was put into place.
Why should I not be allowed to voice my opinion with regards to disagreeing with this policy simply because the positions are being used as was intended?

ken
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ken

Denis,
No one said you shouldnt voice your opinion. You do very well in that regard. I just notice that you are so anti PLP and anything PLP that i wonder if you are being completely objective in your opinions.
Do you have an opinion on the Boo Ewart Brown facebook group and the anti Brown rhetoric on there being spouted by the members? I would’ve thought that would have been just as important a topic as this.
And back to the main topic, why can’t the Press Secretary voice his opinion?

ken
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ken

The point is that the Press Secretary is not a civil servant. It is as simple as that. Civil Servants serve the Government of the day and thus are expected to remain neutral publicly. The Press Secretary is a political appointment by the Premier so therefore his/her allegiance is already known and expected. They are also expected to not be working there if the government was to change, which is not the case for the civil service. If you understand the dynamic of their position, then why cant they have and voice their opinion?

Denis Pitcher
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Ken, I am critical of government but I do not deem myself anti-plp. There have also been times where I have been quite critical of the UBP, but as opposition, they simply get less focus. I try to be as objective as I can though no doubt there are times when I am not as objective as I could be. English was always my weakest subject in school and part of the reason why I blog is to improve my writing ability and “live up to my potential” as my teachers used to endlessly hound me about. What I want… Read more »

ken
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ken

Denis, Where has Glenn Jones, the current Press Secretary said anything that would even be remotely classified as “spouting off such nasty words”? Your analogy lacks credibility. Mr. Jones’ comments were that the UBP obviously is challenging the registration details of voters in only key districts. He also went on to say that this is their right. And in my opinion he was correct as the UBP were not challenging these voters to ensure a fair election, but moreso because they know some elections come down to 10 votes or so and they dont want any hiccups in their campaign,… Read more »

Denis Pitcher
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Why should it matter that the provisions for the position were made a long time ago if I disagree with them today? I hadn’t known about the provisions until recently. Do you expect me to have objected in 1983 when I was a mere 2 years old and because I didn’t at that time I should keep my mouth shut even though I disagree? You didn’t answer my question of why I’ve been left off the blogroll. There have been a great many times when I have been objective and I’m offended that you would suggest that I should ask… Read more »

ken
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ken

I never said the PLP shouldnt take criticism. I think being constructive criticism is vital. I dont know why you are asking me about the progressive minds blog or anything because I am not an administrator on any of those sites, so i cannot answer those questions. I also agree that freedom of speech is imperative, however, there is also something called respect. So yes, like it or not, you can say it, but when your credibility or others’ credibility begins to erode because it is obvious you only have intentions of seeing things from one side, then that will… Read more »

Denis Pitcher
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I am asking for your opinion with regards to the plp blog. The comparison of Glenn Jones and facebook was originally yours, not mine. My point is that Glenn Jones is paid out of the public purse. Facebook writers are not and that is very specifically why I see writing about the facebook hate of less relevance. I hope you see how your comparison was not even remotely similar either and that was specifically my point. I have stated before, I am not pro-plp or pro-ubp. Thus, I will be heavily critical of both. As for the Open Mics, I… Read more »

ken
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ken

Actually Denis, I did not compare Glenn Jones to facebook. I stated how Glenn Jones’ position was not a civil servant. You then went on to ask how would I feel if the UBP hired one of those people on facebook to be their press secretary, and made such nasty comments. Regardless, the two are not comparable and therefore I wont waste any additional time even discussing their lack of commonality. You are more than entitled to your opinion, but when you attempt to try and be a voice of reason and be an agent of change, but then you… Read more »

Denis Pitcher
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Actually Ken, you did compare the two. “I would’ve thought that would have been just as important a topic as this.” Give me an example of where have I shown preference for the UBP? If anything, I have lacked objectivity with them as well as can be seen with these examples: http://www.dpitcher.com/2007/07/ubp-catering-to.html http://www.dpitcher.com/2007/08/milkman-short-o.html What I have suggested is that I am trying my best to be objective but as I also suggested, writing was my weakest subject. You remind me of my highschool teachers who always gave me terrible marks in english but when I’d ask why they’d say “because… Read more »

ken
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ken

I actually think you have a great deal to offer if you channel it correctly. Yes you are still young-ish. I think there is a tendency to expect a government, any government to be perfect and to please everyone all the time, which cannot and will not happen, whether it is PLP, UBP, ABC or XYZ. There are pros and cons to most situations. Maybe you would have been just as critical of the UBP had you lived your adult life under their reign. And if the UBP were to get elected back into office at some point, I hope… Read more »

Denis Pitcher
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“if you channel it correctly”
Ahhhhh! That dreaded “if only you lived up to your potential”.
Hopefully I can count on your criticism with regards to my future pieces so I can figure out what is actually meant by channeling it correctly, or “living up to my potential”

ken
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ken

What I meant by channel it correctly wasnt living up to your potential, but moreso not allowing certain things in politics to get you jaded, and for you to use your talents to get things accomplished.